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bill clinton, lesser scale. tiger woods. we have seen. >> shocking to me. still shocking. >> powerful men do this. >> one of the most decorated, generals of all time. >> yeah. >> to give that up for -- for -- an affair. i just, it's astounding. >> planted the flag one too many times. huh. >>> anger and frustration growing for 120,000 homes and businesses in new york and new jersey that still do not have power two weeks after sandy dealt a devastating blow to this area. people demonstrated over the weekend against the long island power authority which has 100,000,000 customers in the dark. the protesters said along with a slow restoration, they're having trouble even getting basic information from lipa. >>> the airline industry is facing what could turn into the biggest pilot shortage since the vietnam war. starting next summer tougher federal rules will require new hires to have at least 1,500 hours of prior flying time. that's six times the current minimum. also, fueling the shortage, thousand of pilots at major u.s. airlines are about to turn 65. which is
bill clinton, lesser scale. tiger woods. we have seen. >> shocking to me. still shocking. >> powerful men do this. >> one of the most decorated, generals of all time. >> yeah. >> to give that up for -- for -- an affair. i just, it's astounding. >> planted the flag one too many times. huh. >>> anger and frustration growing for 120,000 homes and businesses in new york and new jersey that still do not have power two weeks after sandy dealt a devastating...
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clinton to go and be the negotiator. i know he'd hate me for saying that, but we need a person of enormous prestige and influence to have these parties sit down together as an honest broker. but we have a lot of work to do to regain some credibility because we're crumbling all over the middle east . al qaeda is on the comeback. you saw in the last couple of days, fighting between the kurds ankurds and iraqi on the border. the whole mali situation where al qaeda has taken over. al qaeda training camps are in western iraq. the iranians continue, as we see, the latest i.a.e.a. report on their path towards nuclear weapons. you look at the whole middle east and it's been a significant failure north to mention our reset with the russians. . >> schieffer: let's talk a little bit about libya. you were talking a lot about that. you and the president really kind of had a little set-to last week over the situation in libya because you said once again that you would oppose the nomination of susan rice to be secretary of state. a lot
clinton to go and be the negotiator. i know he'd hate me for saying that, but we need a person of enormous prestige and influence to have these parties sit down together as an honest broker. but we have a lot of work to do to regain some credibility because we're crumbling all over the middle east . al qaeda is on the comeback. you saw in the last couple of days, fighting between the kurds ankurds and iraqi on the border. the whole mali situation where al qaeda has taken over. al qaeda training...
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bill clinton was almost blown out of the presidency. anybody that doesn't know this is going to be the consequence of what happens to you if you get involved in this, and you're running the cia is preposterous. >> eleanor. >> he's not the first powerful man to do something fallish when it comes to an extramarital affair, and he won't be the last. but he is, or was, head of the cia, and that could make him a potential target for blackmail. when you look into this, there's not much more here, i don't believe. there's no evidence of a breach in national security. the fbi apparently acted by the book. you don't tip off the white house when you're engaging in a potentially criminal investigation. the agent in florida who then worried that the investigation was being stalled and went to a republican congressman who went to eric cantor, he has an illustrious record. he helped bring down the millennium plot. you can't blame him, either, for his apparent concern that this was not being studied appear prop it i can't tellly. so then the story got
bill clinton was almost blown out of the presidency. anybody that doesn't know this is going to be the consequence of what happens to you if you get involved in this, and you're running the cia is preposterous. >> eleanor. >> he's not the first powerful man to do something fallish when it comes to an extramarital affair, and he won't be the last. but he is, or was, head of the cia, and that could make him a potential target for blackmail. when you look into this, there's not much...
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also republican congressman raul labrador, former white house chief of staff for bill clinton john podesta, and our friend gop strategist mike murphy. welcome to everybody. yes, i want to get to as much as we can, including some of the republican fallout a little bit later. >>> andrea, bottom line, this furious debate and new facts we've gotten here on benghazi and susan rice this morning. >> mike rogers, the republican chair, threw a hand grenade into the middle of this table when he suggested that the president of the united states might have had prior knowledge before the election of what was going on with david petraeus, that eric holder was aware of it, the attorney general, and that it's not credible that eric holder would not have told the president. this will raise a lot of questions. holder will be called to attention on the hill. the other thing is the disconnect between what the senators believe, which was that there was not an intelligence failure but there was certainly a failure then to follow up. did the state department, why did the state department not increase security, n
also republican congressman raul labrador, former white house chief of staff for bill clinton john podesta, and our friend gop strategist mike murphy. welcome to everybody. yes, i want to get to as much as we can, including some of the republican fallout a little bit later. >>> andrea, bottom line, this furious debate and new facts we've gotten here on benghazi and susan rice this morning. >> mike rogers, the republican chair, threw a hand grenade into the middle of this table...
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said i represent the 57% of americans who did not vote for bill clinton. paul ryan gave an interview saying he didn't believe that president obama has a mandate because he didn't win both congresses. you have to say eisenhower, nixon, reagan, other presidents substantially re-elected or elected didn't have mandates themselves. >> tom brokaw, in this second term as the president begins to decide how to shape his policies, be he according to all that have talked to him and other white house officials want to get things done. he told the "des moines register" in an interview he thought was going to be held as an off the record interview, wanted to do something big on immigration. clearing the deck of these investigations as you said and this our aura of scandal is critical to have the power on capitol hill to make tough decisions. >> rudy giuliani said before this election and says it in a kind of joshing way, that he doesn't want a second term, he wants a second chance. i thought that was accurate. he does want a second chance and the country needs for him t
said i represent the 57% of americans who did not vote for bill clinton. paul ryan gave an interview saying he didn't believe that president obama has a mandate because he didn't win both congresses. you have to say eisenhower, nixon, reagan, other presidents substantially re-elected or elected didn't have mandates themselves. >> tom brokaw, in this second term as the president begins to decide how to shape his policies, be he according to all that have talked to him and other white house...
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i would like to think that bill clinton could get on a plane and make it all better. i'm not sure he could. good morning kathleen. >> caller: these four people got killed before they said that some words was taken out of a report. they talking about -- al-qaeda was taken out and should have been put in. but what about the words that bush and cheney spoke before thousands of people lost their lives? where was john mccain and lindsay graham and that stupid joe scarborough -- >> john: who? who? you mean shut up micah. >> caller: well, micah will sit there and act like she is scared. >> john: poo-poo, micah. thank god she was never married to ike turner because she never would have left. >> caller: we were still suffering from that lie that they told. >> john: yes! >> caller: where don't they get on that boo jazz! >> john: yes testify! jon mccain and lindsay graham love war. as long as it's someone else's kids going off to do it, they love war. and it makes them look tough when their own party has no use for them. they are use any arrow or their quiver to build this up. >
i would like to think that bill clinton could get on a plane and make it all better. i'm not sure he could. good morning kathleen. >> caller: these four people got killed before they said that some words was taken out of a report. they talking about -- al-qaeda was taken out and should have been put in. but what about the words that bush and cheney spoke before thousands of people lost their lives? where was john mccain and lindsay graham and that stupid joe scarborough -- >> john:...
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we saw with ronald reagan and bill clinton. with a second term and a better economy, you can achieve a lot and become quite popular in the process? does obama have that in him? what do you want him to do now that he has four more years? >> the big thing he has going for him, he has four years he doesn't have to worry about getting re-elected. they start these elections about two years ahead of time usually. and that's where their focus goes on how do i keep doing this job, whether i'm a senator, congressman, or whatever it is, if you are a career politician, you always look out for yourself first. when the president's in this position, having been elected a second time, now he has nothing to lose. >> where do you you this he's been weak and where does he need to be stronger? >> i think he's been weak. my son was a huge obama supporter until obama ordered that american's death with the drone and then he lost my son. my son was so offended that a president could kill a united states citizen without a trial, without anything like
we saw with ronald reagan and bill clinton. with a second term and a better economy, you can achieve a lot and become quite popular in the process? does obama have that in him? what do you want him to do now that he has four more years? >> the big thing he has going for him, he has four years he doesn't have to worry about getting re-elected. they start these elections about two years ahead of time usually. and that's where their focus goes on how do i keep doing this job, whether i'm a...
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. >> we heard bill clinton had his office affair with the young intern who was a child. his risk was crazy risk. and i guess david petraeus was also as the director of the central inteleagency for goodness sakes. is the appeal so strong it doesn't matter you risk even the presidency of the united states. historic important and significant post and risked that for a piece on the side. >> if you are not thinking it through, yeah. >> is it true that men. i speak now knowing and you know, i know that i am a decade clean and sober now. and i am trying to forget what happened before. but to throw everything away potentially for a little nooky in nit is depending if you get the urge and go for it but there are consequences. >> who power is the approdizziac. >> he controlled himself for 38 years. >> i absolutely believe that. when he tells trusted people like the colonel who were on earlier that this is the first time, i feel sorry for him that you know, i do feel sorry for him. he was a wonderful general and a wonderful director of the cia, and should america evolve enough or h
. >> we heard bill clinton had his office affair with the young intern who was a child. his risk was crazy risk. and i guess david petraeus was also as the director of the central inteleagency for goodness sakes. is the appeal so strong it doesn't matter you risk even the presidency of the united states. historic important and significant post and risked that for a piece on the side. >> if you are not thinking it through, yeah. >> is it true that men. i speak now knowing and...
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there are a lot of democrats that were very upset with bill clinton during the late '80s and early '90s. they obviously won the white house back in 1992 because they nominated a moderate to center democrat that could win independents and women and people of color and so forth? >> there is an article that the tea party is over. that obviously is the right of the right fringe element of the republican party. very hard line. they certainly had a bigger voice when more of those supported members were elected to congress in 2010, but is that accurate? do you think the tea party is over for extreme conservea tichl? >> time will tell. clearly last tuesday voters didn't express happiness or support for the tea party very clearly. the question will be whether the republican party tries to move as jonathan just described, kind of moderates their message or still beholden to that kind of extreme part of the party? we're starting to see a few dfrs say we should have flexibility on the tax revenue question but talking about it and action are two very different things. i think we'll know soon. >> is
there are a lot of democrats that were very upset with bill clinton during the late '80s and early '90s. they obviously won the white house back in 1992 because they nominated a moderate to center democrat that could win independents and women and people of color and so forth? >> there is an article that the tea party is over. that obviously is the right of the right fringe element of the republican party. very hard line. they certainly had a bigger voice when more of those supported...
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clinton tax rates and the wealthiest are going to have to pay more money and he won. >> but bill clinton worked with a republican congress and our economy was not in dire straits that it is right now. so if he really wants to go back to the bill clinton days he should go to the table and work with republicans. >> also you have to look taxes were historical high. one of the things they're talking about is trying to get tax rates back to the 1990s to compensate for. >> different day, different time. >> what i will say in the election what we did learn that american people can do basic math. they understand we have to cut programs and increase taxes in order to pay for the deficit. the other thing we did see, was obama did run on this platform of raising taxes for the wealthy. >> that was only platform he didn't run. ran on pro-gay marriage, pro-choice and wasn't a mandate on raising taxes. jon: we're going to have to leave the discussion there. good to see you in person. angela mcglowan, marjorie clifton. thank you both. >> thank you. jenna: president obama continues to seek a diplomatic s
clinton tax rates and the wealthiest are going to have to pay more money and he won. >> but bill clinton worked with a republican congress and our economy was not in dire straits that it is right now. so if he really wants to go back to the bill clinton days he should go to the table and work with republicans. >> also you have to look taxes were historical high. one of the things they're talking about is trying to get tax rates back to the 1990s to compensate for. >> different...
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. >> we heard bill clinton famously had his office affair with a young intern who really was a child. i mean, his risk was crazy risk. i guess david petraeus was also as the director of the central intelligence agency for goodness, sakegoodnessgoodnesssg that you risk even the presidency of the united states of america, historic important significant post. you risk even that for a piece on the side? >> if you're not really thinking it through, yes. >> but is it true that some men, i mean, i speak now knowing, and you know, that i'm a decade clean and sober now, but you know, i'm trying my best to forget what happened before. to throw everything away potentially just for a little nookie. >> it depends. if it's thrown at you and you get the urge and you don't think about it and you go for it, yes, but there are consequences. >> who is it that said power is an aphrodisiac. it's a turn on. >> he's been controlling himself for 38 years. >> i believe that,t too. i absolutely believe that. when he tells his trusted people like colonel mansoor and colonel boylan that this is the first time, i
. >> we heard bill clinton famously had his office affair with a young intern who really was a child. i mean, his risk was crazy risk. i guess david petraeus was also as the director of the central intelligence agency for goodness, sakegoodnessgoodnesssg that you risk even the presidency of the united states of america, historic important significant post. you risk even that for a piece on the side? >> if you're not really thinking it through, yes. >> but is it true that some...
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. >> they do, but there is hypocrisy circumstance look at bill clinton. he is one of the most revered and popular ex-presidents in history and you he was a pretty naughty boy as president, you know? i don't think the american public are quite as puritanical to people they linings as to people maybe they don't like so much. >> like whom? >> eliot spitzer would come to mind. >> that wasn't exactly an affair. that was a business arrangement, right? a little different, i think. but you are right. i think the public cuts a lot of soft core for those they love. >> "capturing camelot," a guy called stanley, an official photographer for the kennedys. >> he really wasn't, piers, he was a real old-time photojournalist who had immense access to the kennedys. >> but wasn't official? >> no. no. >> they just let him in. >> they let him in and they let him in for the reasons we were just talking about. they -- he had a very symbiotic relationship with the kennedys. he made them look good and they gave him access. >> they understood the power of this kind of image. i mea
. >> they do, but there is hypocrisy circumstance look at bill clinton. he is one of the most revered and popular ex-presidents in history and you he was a pretty naughty boy as president, you know? i don't think the american public are quite as puritanical to people they linings as to people maybe they don't like so much. >> like whom? >> eliot spitzer would come to mind. >> that wasn't exactly an affair. that was a business arrangement, right? a little different, i...
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director and bill clinton would be named secretary of state. >> bill clinton. >> caller: yes. and if he's not interested, i nominate al gore. >> john: wow. >> caller: i feel like we need our a-team out there. and i think bill and al together could have a great adventure and -- >> bill and al's great adventure. >> caller: i feel susan rice's talents and background would so -- is desperately needed in the c.i.a. which has only been run by old white men. i think of course she would be well qualified as secretary of state. but i feel bill clinton and al gore are such tremendous assets that -- >> john: this is my favorite call of the day so far. i have to break it up. i'm not sure i'm with you as susan rice for c.i.a. i don't know what her law enforcement or espionage or counter terrorism credentials are. >> caller: well, being with the nsa, her background there. i mean how qualified was petraeus for c.i.a. head? i'm thinking she is -- an international expert but also it would diffuse the whole issue of the nomination for secretary of state, you know, all of this flak that has been
director and bill clinton would be named secretary of state. >> bill clinton. >> caller: yes. and if he's not interested, i nominate al gore. >> john: wow. >> caller: i feel like we need our a-team out there. and i think bill and al together could have a great adventure and -- >> bill and al's great adventure. >> caller: i feel susan rice's talents and background would so -- is desperately needed in the c.i.a. which has only been run by old white men. i think...
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on taxes it's as bill clinton said. it's simple math. spending is at 24% of gdp. taxes are at about 15% of gdp right now. even the most conservative member of congress only proposes to bring spending down to say 20% or even 19% of gdp. you still have a 4% to 5% gap. that represents hundreds of billions of dollars that has to be made up. even if you assume growth could get back to 3%, that won't make up the gap. so taxes have to be on the table. there's no way to get around that if you want to actually deal with the fiscal crisis that we have. and what is most heartening to me is to learn today that the president is willing to take this show on the road, to go out into the states and make the case and actually reinforce that mandate he has and make republicans realize that those that want to work with him will be rewarded as people who are trying to solve people, those that want to obstruct will pay a political praice that they will feel at election time. >> his opening act has got to be rick ross. these haters are not going to hold me back. some of the conservativ
on taxes it's as bill clinton said. it's simple math. spending is at 24% of gdp. taxes are at about 15% of gdp right now. even the most conservative member of congress only proposes to bring spending down to say 20% or even 19% of gdp. you still have a 4% to 5% gap. that represents hundreds of billions of dollars that has to be made up. even if you assume growth could get back to 3%, that won't make up the gap. so taxes have to be on the table. there's no way to get around that if you want to...
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this happened under a largely democratic president, under bill clinton. not only a massive increase in the amount of bodies, but we think of the permanent x, right? my only angst about the education programs is that then it can sometimes lead us to forget that the new policies included that folks could no longer live in public housing when they came out and as you were pointing out about the man that you have done the work on, i mean, you literally get put out on a side street. public housing is for people on the brink of homelessness as many formerly incarcerated people are. there are state laws that keep people from doing all kinds of jobs, including being a barber in the state of illinois. like i want to make sure we don't lose sight of the institutional structural assets. >> we have publicly funded institutions across this country and private institutions that are barring people from applying to go to school based on whether or not they have a felony conviction. the work we are doing at the fortune society through the eio coalition is to try to convin
this happened under a largely democratic president, under bill clinton. not only a massive increase in the amount of bodies, but we think of the permanent x, right? my only angst about the education programs is that then it can sometimes lead us to forget that the new policies included that folks could no longer live in public housing when they came out and as you were pointing out about the man that you have done the work on, i mean, you literally get put out on a side street. public housing...
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that's bill clinton. he went to georgetown, freshman and sophomore class president, and later in the juneon year, ran for senior class president, and they were sick of him, and defeated him again. he ran for any presidency he could find, and he eventually got the big one. [laughter] elected there twice. people ask what he's going to do after he's done being president? he'll be done being president, which he did this year, much to barack obama's -- [applause] he ran 37 times this year for barack obama. [laughter] barry obama in high school had no political inclinations whatsoever. at the age of 18 -- i'm sorry, that's not the time the timer's supposed it off, but at age 18, left the island to go to college in los angeles, and, really, you see the first inklings of something. his mother, infused in him a spirit, a sensibility he was something special. yows not ad goo time charlie bear, there's a good reason for you to be on this earth. he started associating with the intellectual older kids at os dental, bu
that's bill clinton. he went to georgetown, freshman and sophomore class president, and later in the juneon year, ran for senior class president, and they were sick of him, and defeated him again. he ran for any presidency he could find, and he eventually got the big one. [laughter] elected there twice. people ask what he's going to do after he's done being president? he'll be done being president, which he did this year, much to barack obama's -- [applause] he ran 37 times this year for barack...
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clinton, if the spouse forgives you, then who are we to judge? >> reporter: levic has the same advice for petraeus's alleged former mistress paula broadwell. disappear. avoid those photo ones that keep the story in the news. but becoming invisible might not be easy for someone as ambitious as broadwell. >> my long-term goal would be to become national security adviser. >> reporter: according to "time" magazine she was even tempted with no political experience to run for the u.s. senate in north carolina. so if disappearing is step one, what is step two? >> step two is the resurrection. we're in the holiday season. it is the resurrection. >> reporter: beginning early next year, petraeus should give an interview to a top policy oriented print journalist. avoid tv interviews, and do a speaking tour in europe where they'll care more about policy than adultery. then, come back home and start rebuilding his career. and the story gets even stranger norah. the "new york daily news" is reporting that the e-mails that broadwell sent to socialite jill kelle
clinton, if the spouse forgives you, then who are we to judge? >> reporter: levic has the same advice for petraeus's alleged former mistress paula broadwell. disappear. avoid those photo ones that keep the story in the news. but becoming invisible might not be easy for someone as ambitious as broadwell. >> my long-term goal would be to become national security adviser. >> reporter: according to "time" magazine she was even tempted with no political experience to run...
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bill clinton. >> i did not have sexual relations with that woman. impeached after the lewinsky mess. . that's trouble for roughly 100% of reelected presidents since 1972. enough to give you second thoughts about that second term. so, is there anything the obama team can do to prevent this? now, as bill clinton might say -- >> it depends upon what the meaning of the word is. >> the fact is, if there is going to be a second term scandal, it's seeds were probably sewn in the first term. the watergate break in, nixon's first term -- >> if the obama team was going to mess up, history suggests they already did. maybe it's something that has made headlines already, but maybe not, the lewinsky scandal didn't surface in 1998, maybe the obama administration will make it's own history and avoid a second term scandal. if not, disney world will seem very appealing. >> in the president's news conference, he said he was well aware of the history of presidential overreach in second terms. you get the sense of anyone that much aware of presidential history knows tha
bill clinton. >> i did not have sexual relations with that woman. impeached after the lewinsky mess. . that's trouble for roughly 100% of reelected presidents since 1972. enough to give you second thoughts about that second term. so, is there anything the obama team can do to prevent this? now, as bill clinton might say -- >> it depends upon what the meaning of the word is. >> the fact is, if there is going to be a second term scandal, it's seeds were probably sewn in the...
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. >> in 1997 after bill clinton got re-elected but before lewinsky, the republicans tried to do the same thing on chinese fund-raising. remember that? they spent the better part of a year trying to turn this into a huge scandal. there is a little more to that one than there is to this. this is just exploiting a tragedy for political purposes. >> and here is the great irony. john mccain, who seems like he's the big whistle-blower, going after susan rice yesterday. compare what he said about susan rice yesterday with what he said about another foreign policy expert, in this case condoleezza rice, back in 2005. here is mccain on susan rice. take a listen. >> susan rice should have known better, and if she didn't know better, she's not qualified. she should have known better. i will do everything in my power to block her from being the united states secretary of state. >> okay. mortal sin, deal breaker, end of her career because john mccain said she had gotten the wrong brief and delivered the wrong brief. however, mccain had a very different reaction back in 2005 when condoleezza rice was n
. >> in 1997 after bill clinton got re-elected but before lewinsky, the republicans tried to do the same thing on chinese fund-raising. remember that? they spent the better part of a year trying to turn this into a huge scandal. there is a little more to that one than there is to this. this is just exploiting a tragedy for political purposes. >> and here is the great irony. john mccain, who seems like he's the big whistle-blower, going after susan rice yesterday. compare what he...
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clinton fifth tax increase was going to cause a massive recession. every single one. every single republican pollster said mitt romney was going to win. they were 100% wrong, and we had a boom instead. they have no credibility. they are wrong about everything. they lie about everything. >> do you feel better? ok. anything you want to get off your chest? you indicated that you have a formal thing you would like to discuss. use the opening remarks, even though we are already open. you can get up there, if you like. >> it is a slide show. >> a slide show. i am sorry. >> you are going to make the rest of us look bad, you know. >> i thought everybody would have won. -- one. i guess when i started thinking about the fiscal cliff, and what the options are, i came up with essentially three. when is to do nothing and hit the cliff, and let the cuts go into play, the tax increases go into play, we have been talking about here. the other is to avoid the cliff and strike some sort of grand bargain, to jump before you hit the cliff. the last one is the one that e
clinton fifth tax increase was going to cause a massive recession. every single one. every single republican pollster said mitt romney was going to win. they were 100% wrong, and we had a boom instead. they have no credibility. they are wrong about everything. they lie about everything. >> do you feel better? ok. anything you want to get off your chest? you indicated that you have a formal thing you would like to discuss. use the opening remarks, even though we are already open. you can...
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bill clinton almost got a middle east peace deal in the second term. so i do think there's a sense when you look abroad the president has more opportunities to leave a mark. >> john do you think, those that the scandal involving cia director former cia director david petraeus could derail the efforts he's trying to get going here? >> this one won't derail it but it's a very good example of the kind of thing that tends to turn up for season in more in a second term. you know iran-contra for president reagan rather famously president clinton's impeachment was in the second term. so it may not be this one, but, you know there is kind of a coincidence that time consuming scandals do pop up in those last four years. >> it's interesting you bring up legacy. one of the issues with the fiscal cliff is what kind of legacy would john boehner or the president leave behind when they leave office if they can't get a deal done and what about a second term compromising and going your own route. >> terrific point. the big things that have happened in our country's his
bill clinton almost got a middle east peace deal in the second term. so i do think there's a sense when you look abroad the president has more opportunities to leave a mark. >> john do you think, those that the scandal involving cia director former cia director david petraeus could derail the efforts he's trying to get going here? >> this one won't derail it but it's a very good example of the kind of thing that tends to turn up for season in more in a second term. you know...